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Now this is neat: turning Google searches into a RSS feed

posted by [personal profile] sbisson at 02:34pm on 20/06/2002
http://www.razorsoft.net/weblog/stories/2002/04/13/google2rss.html

It's a .NET application that can be used to regularly run a search, and expose it as RSS. This is an excellent example of showing how the two basic web service models can cooperate. The query is run through a SOAP RPC call, and then output as a published RSS document, that any site can subscribe to using an RSS aggregator.
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Er Yes

posted by [identity profile] alexmc.livejournal.com at 04:40pm on 20/06/2002
Shame about the .Net though. I think I tried this a few weeks ago with perl....
They limit us to 20 queries per day don't they...

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Re: Er Yes

posted by [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com at 07:07am on 21/06/2002
Nowt wrong with .NET.

Especially with the ActiveState Visual Perl loaded. And (happily annoying the Slashdot branch of the Linux Taliban) MS are doing the right thing and giving the framework away, along with free dev tools. They've even opened up the source using their shared source license, with a BSD implementation.

(Hmmm... A Darwin port shouldn't be too difficult...)
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RSS questions

posted by [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com at 06:40am on 21/06/2002
This RSS thingy ties into some thoughts I had about LiveJournal and problems with it. I hope you don't mind me asking you a few questions about it...

Is RSS the Right Thing?

What does it have to do with RDF?

Are there good open-source aggregators? Peerkat?

If LiveJournals were provided as RSS feeds, would it be easy to use an aggregator to generate your Friends page?

Is there any problem with making RSS play well with authentication (considering the problem of "friends-only" posts)?

I'm thinking about this because the problem with LiveJournal is that (eg) Charlie Stross doesn't show up on my Friends page, because he doesn't use LJ for his blog. LiveJournal has a sort of "network effect" popularity; I can only view the journals of, or set permissions on other LJ users, not on all bloggers. I'm wondering what technology you'd need to solve this. Any solution gives you scalability for free.

Or am I thinking about this in completely the wrong way?
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Re: RSS questions

posted by [identity profile] marypcb.livejournal.com at 07:00am on 21/06/2002
an aggregator is one way to get around different blog systems; as you say one great thing about LJ is the network effect but there's no way to get external things in. I'd prefer the option of putting a My Links section on my LJ which is 'coming in S2' and is an 'easy but low priority' to do for the current system. When I have time I plan to hardcode them into a custom style.

LJ is available as RSS already; Simon has stuck ours on sandm.co.uk. You jsut put /rss/ on the end of your URL. So you can see My Gadget Stuff as http://www.livejournal.com/~techtoys/rss/
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Re: RSS questions

posted by [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com at 09:01am on 21/06/2002
I think the "network effect" thing is a bad thing; I'd much rather be able to treat users of "LJ-compatible" systems the same way I can LJ users.

But I didn't know it already supported RSS - thanks! I note you don't get the bodies of the articles, just the titles, so you couldn't use it to build a "friends-page-alike" directly...
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Re: RSS questions

posted by [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com at 07:02am on 21/06/2002
RSS is definitely the right thing (and the R stands for RDF once you get to 1.0!). I actually use one of many free RSS aggregators to pull in Blogspot, Bloxsom, Radio, LJ, whatever (including Slashdot, Kuro5hin, The Register) into a desktop tool. And yes, Charlie's RSS feed is in there too!

I'm actually in the middle of developing a KM architecture based on blogs and RSS...
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Re: RSS questions

posted by [identity profile] sbisson.livejournal.com at 07:04am on 21/06/2002
One problem with the LJ RSS feeds (he replies to himself) is that they don't use the description element. Which is a bit of a pity. Then again its less annoying than some Radio blogs that don't use the title element.

So you win some, you lose some.
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Re: RSS questions

posted by [identity profile] ciphergoth.livejournal.com at 09:02am on 21/06/2002
Cool.

KM == Knowlege management? Wild.

thanks both for your help with this!
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